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Website: http://www.medscribbler.com/electronic_medical_record.html
Prices on 2nd Page: http://www.patrickhardy.silentqueuedesign.com/images/pricelistandad.pdf
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Thanks for the post:
The pdf is actually on the site of a former contracted web designer as an example of his work, the following link gives prices but also a link directory to screenshots, videos and prices.
http://www.medscribbler.com/electronic_medical_records_comparison.html
These are a little dated to our current quality, but will give you a good idea,
As we have not hit 100 users yet of our non-free versions (free has an unknown user base) I'm not sure of the response. But comments about what is seen in the demos and screenshots would be helpful and appreciated.
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The site also talks about support and installation costs - we are about to announce - FREE FIVE YEAR SUPPORT and Free installation support - Why - a secret for the board - because we couldn't sell support anyway because as soon as a doc installed Medscribbler they knew they didn't need support
For completness of this thread, a copy/paste from another post by CEOmike
CEOMike writes:
Medscribbler is NOT CCHIT certified and will NOT be until CCHIT includes items for a USABLE interface that includes free form entry of information by voice and handwriting. CCHIT by definition excludes innovation. We believe that after 30 years we better start thinking outside of the box if we are to get it off the 4% of small office adoption - the big clinics and hospitals can look after themselves - which they do with CCHIT.
This does not mean Medscribbler is lacking in the CCHIT features, in fact we have more that they do not list because they do not understand an "Usable" GUI - it just means our input options make many certification "specifications" redundant. Medscribbler does everything that paper does PLUS a lot of things that a computer can do. Medscribbler does not FORCE the 10 layers of abstraction for stuff that has no or very little importance for quality of patient on-going care.
Its tough to give an example because it is like comparing apples and oranges. Lets try an RX written for amoxil BID 9am and 9pm - The amoxil part is important for patient history and on-going care plus current care - BID 9am and 9pm has normally little significance (maybe if the patient later reports stomach upset???) But it has no real reporting function to improve practice care or even that patient's continuing care - so Medscribbler lets you write Amoxil in handwriting and chose the specific one (also from a pick of general common drug list, a patient specific list, a doctor specific list, or a group list (ie pediatric drugs)) But the BID 9 and 9 in Medscribbler BID is a quick pick and 9 and 9 is just handwrite, type or voice - most "certified" systems have elaborate screens and templates to meet certification so the EMR design structure results in the same "templating" for the 9 and 9 and as a consequence requires "training" and "supporting" doctors.
We are not in the business of "training" doctors and we are not in the business of "supporting" the staff at a doctors office - we are in the business of making software that doctors WANT not NEED. Therefore we have just started to offer free installation support and FIVE years FREE software support - if software is any good it should not need support to keep it running!
We are about to release in this coming quarter Medscribbler Open Source, initially on Sourceforge, which will have both code and compiled downloads. Developer support will be available for a very modest to be determined incident fee. Medscribbler Forms and Documents (no built in billing but can work with a manual "cut and paste" to any billing system as the doctor's side can collect billing info) $2,899 The full version PRO with billing and handwriting templating and coding system is $5,899 A hosted server with backup and secure VPN connection on a top tier DOD certified network of PRO is $535 per month. These all are for basic 2x2 clinician and clerical concurrent connections - discounts for additional users.
Screen shots, videos and no obligation online demos are available - you do not have to sign up and we will not "badger" you - we have nothing to hide and if you don't WANT Medscribbler we are not about to try and convince you you NEED it.
I think that NOT being CCHIT certified is a great thing... I can't imagine using an EMR with full data mining capabilities/granularity that will allow big government to constantly look over my shoulder. Since I don't plan on doing P4P ever, CCHIT isn't an issue for me. It just represents bloat, increased costs, organized vendors pushing a non-physician friendly agenda and having to abide by the foolishness of what President Obama is trying to mandate in the middle of a recession.
Al
Al Borges, M.D.
Mike, you offer several different models of the software.
The RASP web based version is intriguing. Is it ASP and slow, or is it a different technology? http://www.medscribbler.com/electronic_medical_record_asp_emr.html
Given that it is web based, do you offer demo accounts for offices to take it for a drive? If so, several here I bet would be interested.
Other EMR companies are offering web based, and they allow unlimmited office workers to access it. You only allow one office worker per provider.
You have less than 100 paid installs of your software since 2002. You may consider reviewing your price structure to capture more offices. Fritz's Abletfactory tablet EMR is similar but significantly much cheaper. http://www.abletfactory.com/EMRSuite.html
Thanks for the questions, Medscribbler RASP is not ASP or web based. It is CLOUD computing, we statred in 2002 with CLOUD computing as the goal, knowing it would be about 2009 before this was a common option. You are right, ASP has a lot of problems. CLOUD computing is really private SaaS, Medscribbler RASP is really Medscribbler that runs over the Internet without a browser. The Medscribbler client for the user is the browser. Also it is really VPN technology, and we use SSL just like a browser, for security except you have your own private SSL certificates. This gets a little technical but basically Medscribbler was desgned for wireless broadband with handwriting on Tablet PCs - started in 2002 but these technologies are just now becoming common. Medscribbler was cutting edge, now it is just very advanced.
Yes you can demo it online, call and we will get you a log in to test installation - you need a tablet or we will not consider this demo type and will suggest a sales manager led online demo instead.
FPdoctor:Other EMR companies are offering web based, and they allow unlimmited office workers to access it. You only allow one office worker per provider.
Yes and they charge more a lot more per provider, and our base price is two providers which means our starting price is a lot lower. These are concurrent users. Frankly, EMR vendors have so many variations in pricing details unless you do specific pricing scenarios it is impossible to compare. For example, Medscribbler PRO actually costs out as a total package less than both Soapware and Amazing Charts that advertise under a thousand dollars. Why because if you add Labs - an extra fee, support an extra fee (and you can't run AC without support but Medscribbler needs virtually no suppport, etc) So new hardware / software / training and support for Medscribbler comes out at about $12,000 for a solo doc. For most it is less because they already have a lot od the IT structure that is required. There are other costs to an EMR - ie, a $1,000 EMR that requires SQL server and the hardware to run it really costs about $3,500 as opposed to Medscribbler which is all inclusive (just as solid DB - MySQL) that can run well on a $300 workstation for a total price of $3,100.
Where our pricing may be more than others is a doctor who has 10 staff and he just runs between exam rooms, but in this case because of the low maintenance, support and training expense of Medscribbler - we are still a good deal in the long run. And a doc who works this way is business focused - so they understand this advantage.
FPdoctor:You have less than 100 paid installs of your software since 2002. You may consider reviewing your price structure to capture more offices. Fritz's Abletfactory tablet EMR is similar but significantly much cheaper.
I thought by now you would have figured out EMR vendors are LIARS, making some of the bankers look like choir boys. I have done other posts on the install base claims of vendors. Figure it out 4% (studies show) of approx 400,000 primary care docs is only about 16,000 EMRs in use. Divide that by the approximately 400 EMRs that have been listed in the last three years = 40 users per EMR Or go at the other way - take all claims by EMR vendors and add them up (I did this exercise a few years back) and you get something like over a million doctors using EMRs???
There are also many docs who purchase and never use, especially the low cost base product ones like AC and Soapware.
Medscribbler simply will not LIE, is this a competitive disadavntage, yes, as illustrated by your question - that somehow we are less than competitive. I know we actually out sell some of the so called "big boys" - the politics of this I think are discussed everywhere on this board. Medscribbler has always been in this for the long haul, bringing innovation and new technology to market. Our customers, to a one, are more than happy with us - they actually send us gifts at Christmas and want to come on vaction here! And that is "priceless."
Mike, I did the demo today. Spent 2 hrs and will download the free trial this week.
If you are up to revising some things, this EMR could work for me. The demo person, also named Mike, has the list of things such as 1) Ability to have several separate charts for same person, 2) Individual panes for Past Surgical and Past Medical histories, 3) Have a picture of the patient available for doctor to see without going to demographics, 4) Ability for vitals to be included in the visit form. 5) Integration to electronic Rx service that are integrated with all other EMRs/Pharmacists.
When I download and use the free trial, I'll give you some more specifics.
Dr. Murdoch, this is up our alley.
Many EMRs who utilize tablets have their customers also purchase this handwriting recognition medical dictionary.
Has anyone tried it with Medscribbler ?
http://www.abletfactory.com/DictionaryManager.html
FPdoc,
I'm surprised you have not downloaded Medscribbler long ago as Mike offered a free version for years before it went to Handango. If you like AbletFactory, then you should love Medscribbler.
Please let us know the limitations of the free version and how it works for musculoskeletal charting especially with similar or same diagnostic conditions.
Chris Wilkerson, D.C. Carson Doctors Group TabletPCs in Medicine Editor-in-Chief www.MedicalTabletPC.com Home: www.Digital-Doc.com
DigDoc, you are right. I should have paid more attention!
I downloaded the "Files and Documents" trial. Its the version for two providers at a total cost of $2,800. It is the upgraded version of the Free Lite version. Updated drug data base and Coding and will undergo continued upgrades.
The Free Lite version looks incredible! http://www.emrfreesoftware.com/features.php It is becoming open source.
Your charting is as good as your template for musculoskeletal problems. You simply scan in your paper template and digital ink it. All of your labs, consult reports, imaging reports, intake forms, etc are housed in their document management system. Its FREE.
FPdoctor: I downloaded the "Files and Documents" trial. Its the version for two providers at a total cost of $2,800. It is the upgraded version of the Free Lite version. Updated drug data base and Coding and will undergo continued upgrades.
$2,800 is peanuts. FP, to get a good feel for Medscribbler you Obviously need a Tablet PC.
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Yes, one needs a Tablet. I"ve had a IBM Lenovo for 4 years.
TECNEX POMS goes for $999.00, "3 users" full functionality EMR + PM.
DrMurdoch: FPdoctor: I downloaded the "Files and Documents" trial. Its the version for two providers at a total cost of $2,800. It is the upgraded version of the Free Lite version. Updated drug data base and Coding and will undergo continued upgrades. $2,800 is peanuts. FP, to get a good feel for Medscribbler you Obviously need a Tablet PC.
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FPdoctor: Yes, one needs a Tablet. I"ve had a IBM Lenovo for 4 years.
My Lenovo 200X TPC is the best I have ever used. Of course being new it has a fast CPU for a mobile device 1.8 and 4 Gigs of Ram, L2 cache etc.
http://www.medicaltabletpc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=643&Itemid=29