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Nick Harrington Posted: Tue, Oct 27 2009 4:53 AM

Stolen shamelessly from The London Telegraph, I wondered how many of these posting characteristics you've spotted at emrupdate.com?

1. Godwin’s Law
The most famous of all the internet laws, formed by Mike Godwin in 1990. As originally stated, it said: "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving *** or Hitler approaches 1." It has now been expanded to include all web discussions. It is closely related to the logical fallacy “reductio ad Hitlerum”, which says “Hitler (or the ***) liked X, so X is bad”, frequently used to denigrate vegetarians and atheists.

The same being applied to we Climate Change doubters.

2. Poe’s Law
Not to be confused with the law of poetry enshrined by Edgar Allen Poe, the internet Poe’s Law states: “Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing.”

I take this to infer that without sprinkling debate with sufficient smilies, some of the post readers won't quite catch the intended sarcasm or humor being attempted. Oh, Wink

3. Rule 34
States: “If it exists, there is porn of it.” See also Rule 35: “If no such porn exists, it will be made.” Generally held to refer to fictional characters and cartoons, although some formulations insist there are "no exceptions" even for abstract ideas like non-Euclidean geometry, or puzzlement.

Marge Simpson appeared on the cover of Playboy. Enough said.

4. Skitt’s Law
Expressed as "any post correcting an error in another post will contain at least one error itself" or "the likelihood of an error in a post is directly proportional to the embarrassment it will cause the poster."

Once published there is very little you can do to correct a gramatical, typo or too enthusiastic a post. RSS feeds, mirrors, Google cache all conspire to trip up the hasty or hurried poster.

5. Scopie’s Law
States: “In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to as a credible source loses the argument immediately, and gets you laughed out of the room.” First formulated by Rich Scopie on the badscience.net forum.

This for the frequent conspiracy theorists out there.

6. Danth’s Law (also known as Parker’s Law)
States: “If you have to insist that you've won an internet argument, you've probably lost badly.” Named after a user on the role-playing gamers’ forum RPG.net.

Do any of us ever think we've won an argument? A thread from years ago can easily be resurrected, reheated and ready for new action every week.

7. Pommer’s Law
Proposed by Rob Pommer on rationalwiki.com in 2007, this states: “A person's mind can be changed by reading information on the internet. The nature of this change will be from having no opinion to having a wrong opinion.”

True. The internet is full of completely incorrect factoids which people take as true.

8. DeMyer's Laws
Named for Ken DeMyer, a moderator on Conservapedia.com. There are four: the Zeroth, First, Second and Third Laws.

The Second Law states: “Anyone who posts an argument on the internet which is largely quotations can be very safely ignored, and is deemed to have lost the argument before it has begun.”

Careful next time you quote someone!

9. Cohen’s Law
Proposed by Brian Cohen in 2007, states that: “Whoever resorts to the argument that ‘whoever resorts to the argument that... …has automatically lost the debate’ has automatically lost the debate.”

CLASSIC. Love it!!!!!!!!

10. The Law of Exclamation
First recorded in an article by Lori Robertson at FactCheck.org in 2008, this states: "The more exclamation points used in an email (or other posting), the more likely it is a complete lie. This is also true for excessive capital letters."

See 9. above.

Of course there others.

Striesand Effect - the UK has this last week where some hot-shot attourney's tried to gag the press reporting a British company dumping toxic waste in Africa. The more you try to hide a fact, the more people discover it. This was Barbara Striesand attempting to hide pictures of her cliff-side property.

Can you think of any?

Nick

 

 

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mchasemd replied on Tue, Oct 27 2009 9:34 AM

The animus of a posting is proportional to the anonymity of the poster.

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alborg replied on Wed, Oct 28 2009 4:57 AM

Two of the people I like to quote from are Poe and Churchill. For example:

  • Poetry is the rhythmical creation of beauty in words. (Poe)
  • Stupidity is a talent for misconception. (Poe)
  • The nose of a mob is its imagination. By this, at any time, it can be quietly led. (Poe)
  • Words have no power to impress the mind without the exquisite horror of their reality. (Poe)

  • There is no such thing as a good tax [CCHIT]. (Churchill)
  • An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile—hoping it will eat him last. [Applies to those that have appeased CCHIT!] (Churchill)
  • Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.” Churchill: “Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” [Comeback I hope to use at emrupdate one day... ] (Churchill)
  • Nancy Astor: “Sir, if you were my husband, I would give you poison.” Churchill: “If I were your husband I would take it.” (Churchill)
  • If you are going to go through hell, keep going. (Churchill)
  • You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life. (Churchill)
  • Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. (Churchill)
  • [about emrupdate] ...men will still say, “This was their finest hour!” (Churchill)
  • [about the war on CCHIT and HITECH] "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!" (Churchill)

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reddybiggs replied on Fri, Oct 30 2009 11:11 PM

My favorite Churchill quote:

"Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never--in nothing, great or small, large or petty--never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. "

 

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reddybiggs replied on Fri, Oct 30 2009 11:14 PM

BTW, did you guys catch 'freedom citizen' in the H1N1 vaccine discussion, actually do 2 of the 10 rules here?

I was ROFL.

He actually used whale.to as a reference.   This was the first time I had seen somebody do that, and actually mean it.  I thought that law #5 was just a joke. Obviously I was wrong.

I was hoping he would stick around to see how many more he would do for us, since he got off to such a good start.

 

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Osler replied on Sat, Oct 31 2009 12:11 AM

The tin foil "hatter" formerly known as "freedomcitizen" = a.k.a. "HSS". I'm surprised you didn't notice. The IP logs for these 2 "different" posters would be revealing...

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alborg replied on Sat, Oct 31 2009 1:47 AM

Yup, the "Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never--..." quote is probably one of his best!!

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