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Why Windows Vista (Longhorn) is horrible.

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DrMurdoch Posted: 09-11-2005 4:06 AM | Locked
#1) 7 versions ?

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/11/0547247&tid=201&tid=109&tid=98&tid=218

What ?

I am going to be stockpiling Windows XP/2000 licences. Vista is going to be a nightmare powergrab by Microsoft. Luckily they won't have any major features in time for shipping, so the first version of Longhorn may be bearable. Windows Vista will be XP 1.1 at most.

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Full Disclosure: Microsoft Innovation--An Oxymoron

With Microsoft's new stuff, it's deja vu all over again.

Stephen Manes
From the October 2005 issue of PC World magazine

http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,122118,00.asp

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Microsoft Vista will ignore your monitor

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26703

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"After a few days' use of Vista, it's hard not to feel disappointed. Dolled up though it is, Vista still resembles good old Windows XP, only with a lot more bugs," intoned the Boston Globe. "Of course, Vista is still beta code -- early beta, at that. It's still a year away from going to market. Glitches are to be expected at this stage. But one might have hoped for a little more innovation, as well."

--- BOSTON GLOBE ---

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Windows Vista Toughest '06 Test For Microsoft
By Gregg Keizer TechWeb News Dec 16, 2005 03:08 PM

Microsoft's biggest challenge in 2006 will be convincing corporations that they should upgrade to Windows Vista when it rolls out, a consulting firm says.

Microsoft's biggest challenge in 2006 will be convincing corporations that they should upgrade to Windows Vista when it rolls out late in the year, a research firm said Friday.

Directions on Microsoft, a Kirkland, Wash.-based company that tracks the developer's moves, put the Vista challenge at the top of its annual list.

Although demos of the still-in-the-works operating system boast cool graphics effects and consumer features, it's enterprises that Microsoft must persuade. "Windows is Microsoft's biggest business unit, and Vista is it's biggest challenge," said Rob Helm, director of research at Directions. "Frankly, I think it's going to be very difficult for Microsoft to make its case to corporations."

January and February of 2006 will be the months to watch, said Helm, since that's when Microsoft will lock down the feature set for Vista. "Then they can try to tell corporations why they need it."

He's not optimistic because of the years-long trend of shrinking deferred revenues received from long-term licensing programs, such as Software Assurance, which gives customers the right to all upgrades during a two- or three-year span. Lower revenues there means that fewer companies are buying into Software Assurance, perhaps because they're balking at upgrading operating systems.

"The Windows Client division has to tell corporate customers why they want Windows Vista, and why they shouldn't wait until they buy new hardware," said Helm.

Among the remaining challenges in Directions' Top 10 list, Helm singled out the newest refresh of an online strategy as least likely to show major results in 2006, and the Redmond, Wash.-based giant's new game console, the Xbox 360, as most likely to meet its challenge during the year.

"Microsoft's in a bit of disarray," said Helm when talking about the company's online strategy. "They're trying to focus on Google, and come up with things to take away from Google. I don't think we'll see any huge concrete results here in 2006."

rest at ...... http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175004592

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A new storage subsystem has been radically trimmed while the Indigo web services communications layer and Avalon interface will be back-ported to Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, making it even harder to justify Windows Vista.

"With Windows Vista, Microsoft has a real challenge," Helm said, looking ahead to the next 12 months for Microsoft. "It has to make the case to corporates this is an important upgrade that they need to make before they buy new hardware, or sales will continue to erode."®

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2005/12/21/windows_vista_business_users/


 

OK. it's official, there is NO reason to get VISTA !!! Unless you want M$ to control what you do with your PC - aka - DigitalMicrosoft Rights Management

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More disasters ...

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrott/Article/ArticleID/49450/windowspaulthurrott_49450.html

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M$ reminds me of the American car companies building their bloated overly chromed cars while ignoring what their customers wanted and the Japanese cars slowly taking over. One of these days M$ will get a wake up call and people just wont pay big bucks for DRM hobbled bloatware.


I suspect M$ is really making different versions so they can HAMMER DRM into the Home Versions and make sure they control your PC content.


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Microsoft released a press release today saying that the consumer version of Vista will not be released until Jan 07.

"The world's largest software maker pushed back the consumer version of Vista until January 2007 from an earlier target for the second half of 2006 and pledged to ship the next version of its operating system to business customers in November."

http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2006-03-22T003931Z_01_N21350258_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-MICROSOFT-VISTA-DC.XML

haha. M$ missing targets how rare.

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I don't see why Microsoft missing targets is so funny.  They aren't going anywhere so missing targets just mean that we're that much farther from future enhancements.
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Interesting link along these lines:

http://news.com.com/Windows+is+so+slow%2C+but+why/2100-1016_3-6054053.html?tag=nefd.top

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Let's see, 35 million lines of code with XP in 2001, and 330 million computer world wide running the OS, and the vast majority of users having no concept of computer cookies, spyware, worms, viruses and security issues......

The business versions of Vista should be available in November 06. Business users generally have IT folks to protect them, so I guess MS is OK with that.

The public version is alleged to be pushed to early 07 (wouldn't surprise me if MS released at Xmas with a twist of reverse psychology).

Personally, I think MS has positioned itself for the delay by mandating that monitor manifacturers emblazen a logo of a prophylactic condom on each monitor, hence the delay in security.

 

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Why Vista adds nothing but Microsoft's abilty to control you.

 

Windows Vista doesnt add meaningful features over XP as all the key stuff you want is already available for XP.

Vista's main goal is to add Digital Rights Management to Windows PCs around the world so Microsoft can assure content providers that they should be the technology to allow Copyright holders to deliver protected content to content purchasers.

Alleged Microsoft Fanboy Paul admits Vista adds nothing: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_xp_apps.asp

Windows Vista is much more apt to fouling up your EMR than help it.  I can't imagine any good reason to even consider upgrading to Vista before say, 2008 or beyond.

 

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Why Vista adds nothing but Microsoft's abilty to control you.

 

Windows Vista doesnt add meaningful features over XP as all the key stuff you want is already available for XP.

Vista's main goal is to add Digital Rights Management to Windows PCs around the world so Microsoft can assure content providers that they should be the technology to allow Copyright holders to deliver protected content to content purchasers.

Alleged Microsoft Fanboy Paul admits Vista adds nothing: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_xp_apps.asp

Windows Vista is much more apt to fouling up your EMR than help it.  I can't imagine any good reason to even consider upgrading to Vista before say, 2008 or beyond.

 

>>Windows Vista is much more apt to fouling up your EMR than help it.  I can't imagine any good reason to even consider upgrading to Vista before say, 2008 or beyond.<<

 I'm using Vista Ultimate on a Scribbler Tabletpc with Writepad EMR. I did a clean install.  I have to agree, there is no compelling reason to upgrade for most. Having said that, Hand Writing is better and this OS claims it actually, "learns how you write,"  as opposed to the user conforming to the HW rules. As Thurott notes on his supersite, the search feature in Vista is better. Reminds me of Apple's Spotlight which technically is no better than Windows desktop search. Data Execution Prevention is in high gear with Vista. I had to allow the executable on my EMR in order to remove a .dll corruption failure that originally prohibited the installation.

 

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Better handwriting is a significant improvement.  I wonder how much better it will be.  I will likely install Vista on my Tablet to test this question.  Or maybe more likely will get a new tablet with Vista sometime in the new year.

But with Vista being the bloatware that it is ... It'll probably be a battery hog. 

I am 75% finished my Windows 2000 to XP migration.   I notice no difference between the two.

I am only migrating to XP to support Office 2007.  I will likely want to use OneNote 2007.  Hardly a good reason to go to XP but I am doing it anyway.

 

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