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FPdoctor Posted: 02-22-2006 8:25 AM
This thread is to discuss new tablets
coming on the market this year.

Toshiba m400
A tablet with "two chips in one"
http://www.pringle.net.nz/blog/PermaLink,guid,b965bb24-90c0-42cf-8716-105069c47493.aspx

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http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32823
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DrMurdoch replied on 02-22-2006 11:03 PM
If the m400 really has a nice screen (which the article says it does), it would make it the best convertible tablet.

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digital-doc replied on 02-23-2006 12:30 AM
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If the m400 really has a nice screen (which the article says it does), it would make it the best convertible tablet.



Depending on just how you use your TPC, weight can be the most critical factor in mobility.
My partners Toshiba TPC convertible is around 6 lb. and this weight, has an obvious strain, in the slate mode.

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/srch.to

 

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DrMurdoch replied on 02-23-2006 3:33 AM
My next TPC is a slate for sure.

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midwestsoftware replied on 02-23-2006 8:12 AM
We generally sell the motion 1600 units with our emr, because of the larger screen size.

The Motion LS800 is only 2.2 lbs. I just demo-ed the smaller 800 for the first time yesterday and it was amazing.

The website says that it is as small as a paperback, and it really is, and with windows XP tablet. It was incredible and so light.

I think I read that they have also reduced the price on these models by about $300 or $400 dollars- so if you are looking...

www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_ls800.asp
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NYFP replied on 02-23-2006 1:52 PM
I was checking out some Tablets last week. I really liked the Lenovo/IBM X41 it's really light for a convertible and it has a great rubber grip on the side (created by the extended 8 cell battery) that makes it very easy to carry around. The screen was awesome also, no glare and very bright. It also uses a track pointer mouse instead of a mouse pad, I think this will take some getting used to for me. The digital Pen is also very wimpy. It also supports a/b/g wireless networks and Bluetooth. I understand they also have a slower spinning hard drive to save battery life and weight but I don't know if this will slow me down, because I don't think documenting in the EMR is that resource intensive, but maybe one of the more Tech Savvy people can better answer this.

I also liked the Motion 1600, but it is more of a slate with an add on keyboard, the one I saw had a great screen also, but it had some glare from the overhead lights (I did not see the view anywhere screen which is supposed to help remedy this.

I also saw the Toshiba 200, which was a little bulky and it also had the worst glare of the bunch.

I am leaning towards getting the IBM at this point, but I still have to check out the HP.


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jrbak replied on 02-23-2006 3:53 PM
We are working on a pilot with the Motion LS1600 and LE800, and with some Lenovo X41's. And some tech-naive staff. So far it's a mix of responses.

I am curious about experience in the field with the Fujitsu 1510D with tablet PC. We might try bring one of those into our pilot.

I get the feeling that there will be buyer's remorse in this part of the market for while yet.
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ktdodson replied on 02-23-2006 9:52 PM
Hey Rich:

Don't forget the Fujitsu T4020. Mine arrived 2 days ago and I have played with it somewhat. I'll give more of a review later this weekend once I've configured it and used it more.
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NYFP replied on 02-23-2006 11:47 PM
Thanks I did forget to put that on my list above, I was checking it out on their website, it looks nice lsoo. I will check it out this weekend. I heard it's a good one. I was also checking out the Sahara (online) based on Barbara's (Ducknet)recommendation and that looks pretty cool too. "I'll Be Back."


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NYFP replied on 02-23-2006 11:50 PM
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Hey Rich:

Don't forget the Fujitsu T4020. Mine arrived 2 days ago and I have played with it somewhat. I'll give more of a review later this weekend once I've configured it and used it more.


Why did you prefer the Fujitsu T4020 over the Lenovo/IBM X41?


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Strychnine replied on 02-24-2006 7:45 AM
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Why did you prefer the Fujitsu T4020 over the Lenovo/IBM X41?



I have tested and deployed 1 Fujitsu Lifebook T4020, 1 IBM X41, and 3 HP tc4200's here. Of the 3, I like the Fujitsu the least. While the performance is good (it is bested by the HP), the Fujitsu does not seem as solid a tablet as the HP or IBM (though it is also cheaper than both). HP and IBM have been building business-class laptops for a long time, and they bring those construction techniques to their tablets. The Fujitsu is the most attractive though.

Overall, the HP tc4200 is the fastest and most refined. It is the strongest tablet I have personally tested, and can be considered a legitimate desktop replacement for most users with the 2GHz Pentium M and 1GB RAM @ 533MHz. The Fujitsu comes in behind the HP in terms of performance, and the IBM is noticeably slower than both.

Weight is misleading when comparing all 3 of those tablets. The IBM is the lightest on paper I believe, but the weight distribution makes it seem heavier than it is. Likewise, the weight distribution in the Fujitsu and HP makes them seem lighter than they are.

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NYFP replied on 02-24-2006 8:22 AM
Thanks again Michael, I always appreciate reading your very informative posts.


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ktdodson replied on 02-24-2006 11:24 AM
Rich:

Important to me was battery life, VR, and the "feel" of the keyboard.

The only tablet I've owned is a Motion 1300. It's starting to look pretty ragged though still functions well.

The CD bay can be removed on the Fujitsu and an extra battery added for 8-9 hours of work. (One physician stated he got 6 hours with the brightest screen setting and BT/WiFi on).

I installed and trained with Microsoft's VR program that came with the tablet using the dual array mics only. I was very surprised at how well the VR worked with very minimal training. I'll be installing Dragon this weekend and training extensively, attempting to use VR without tugging around a headset and fighting wires.

The Fujitusi also has a 3-in-1 card reader and integrated Blue Tooth, which will allow for easy transfer of digital camera pics.

Speed was never an issue for me; all these tablets and even the cheapest of desktops are plenty fast for most apps.

Compared to the old Motion, the Fujitsu screen is remarkable in appearance, with very fine resolution and no glare.

In the past 2 weeks, I have seen several drug reps with the HP and IBM tablet. I never gave HP a real look as I've had nothing but trouble with every HP product I've ever purchased. As Michael noted, the IBM tablet is like a rock. I've played with two of them and the first impression when you grab the tablet is its apparent rugged feel. I'm sure their next tablet will rock.

With regards to using the pen, the old Motion is actually a bit smoother. The Fujitsu screen seems a little grainy as the pen moves across the surface. This may be because the tablet is new.

More to report later . . .
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DrMurdoch replied on 02-24-2006 12:14 PM
I strongly suggest a SLATE (aka no keyboard) Tablet.

My suggested setup (of course, with the right EMR) is:
desktops in every room.
at least one desktop easily accessible outside the rooms.
desktops for all the staff, at least one for the nurse and one for the frontdesk.
and a slate tablet.

the EMR would have to accept INK (written) notes.

ideally the slate tablet would have reasonable voice recognition, but a closeby powerful desktop might be better for this.

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Not to mention another 2000 computers.
one for each patient at home :)
and 1 or 2 in office kiosks.

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FPdoctor replied on 04-04-2006 10:06 PM

IBM dual core tablet PC  http://www.coreduonews.com/2006/02/22/tablet-pc-thnikpad-x60s-lenovo/

 Intel chip - low voltage L2400 processor    = 8 hours of battery life

 

HP/Compaq Dual Core (TC4400)   http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33440

Some Speculate vendors are awaiting the release of MS pending new OS.

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